Chigwell 6:57 Wed Sep 2
Anyone for staying in the EU?
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1. Mass immigration from outside the EU through barely-controlled borders by economic migrants (yes, I know there are some genuine refugees amongst them, but most of them are fit and aggressive young men);
2. Eurozone mess leading to huge bailout payments to Greece, likely never to be repaid;
3. Major decisions by unelected commissioners whom no-one has ever heard of;
4. Expenses on a galactic scale (with no-one really checking what is genuine) by politicians and bureaucrats in Brussels and Strasbourg;
5. UK jobs up for grabs by EU workers whose costs of living back home allow them to accept low pay from employers, who love the extra profit.
I voted in the 70s to join the EEC, a trading group of 6 roughly equally-developed industrial countries. Since then the entire concept has changed with no further reference to the electorate.
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Hammer and Pickle
8:25 Mon Sep 14
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Now that Labour are about to wrest the Torch of No from the hands of the Right, one wonders what the Mail will have to write about.
The royals? Yesterday's TV? The mind boggles.
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Chigwell
6:12 Mon Sep 14
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.....and to add to the list of reasons to go:
6. Having to pay the price for an uber-cock-up by Mrs. Merkel
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Mike Oxsaw
4:26 Fri Sep 11
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Given that lawyers make up a substantial number of MPs in most/all parties, it's highly unlikely that you'll get an admission that they fucked-up on all/any matters EU unless/until they can guarantee that in making such an admission they won't be leaving themselves open to legal action.
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After8
3:57 Fri Sep 11
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Indeed comma and Maastricht was in our manifesto when we won the election.
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After8
3:57 Fri Sep 11
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Hermit
More like totally and utterly disastrous.
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Hammer and Pickle
12:32 Fri Sep 11
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European politics is being taken over by the Kremlin's media machine.
Deal with it.
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Hermit Road
12:20 Fri Sep 11
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The Conservative party has a terrible record on Europe.
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8:34 Thu Sep 10
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The freedom of movement and residence, of all citizens within the EU was enshrined within the Maastricht Treaty of 1992.
John Major was party to the negotiations.
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After8
7:25 Thu Sep 10
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The EU supports mass unchecked immigration,it's called freedom of movement.
And now Juncker wants more refugees admitted.
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Mike Oxsaw
6:41 Thu Sep 10
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Hammer and Pickle 10:53 Wed Sep 9
I understand how the government and big businesses think. 40 years in one of the worlds biggest bullshitting arenas makes second-guessing critical choice preferences almost second nature.
The government will try as hard as they possibly can to lean the wording of the vote such that the "IN" party hoover up any undeciders.
As English is a tool of your claimed trade I would have thought you of all people on here would realise that.
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Hammer and Pickle
5:40 Thu Sep 10
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Hahahah!
You two are priceless. Both of those are going right up on my wall you know.
Freedom of movement = mass immigration!
What
A
Cunt!
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
5:36 Thu Sep 10
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Hammer and Pickle 4:20 Thu Sep 10
'Show us where I have championed "mass unchecked immigration".'
You never stop championing the EU whose cardinal policy of freedom of movement is per se 'mass unchecked immigration' cast in fucking great tablets of marble.
What on earth are you on lately.
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13 Brentford Rd
4:47 Thu Sep 10
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No your views are reckless and are based on nothing but your opinion which appear to be based on nothing of any substance.
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Hammer and Pickle
4:40 Thu Sep 10
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I look at the wider picture and I question the categories people are passively accept.
My agenda is all about sound policy and good governance.
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13 Brentford Rd
4:31 Thu Sep 10
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You've been pro EU and pro immigration / migration per se at every opportunity. You see no difference between a refugee and an econimic migrant.
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Hammer and Pickle
4:20 Thu Sep 10
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Show us where I have championed "mass unchecked immigration".
Didn't your Mum tell you that telling fibs is wrong?
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13 Brentford Rd
4:03 Thu Sep 10
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Is H&P who lives in POLAND still championing the EU and mass unchecked immigration.
You bizzarely claimed the other day that after visiting London as a TOURIST 2 years ago that it was better than it was in the 80s and painted a picture of it as if it were a quaint rural village.
You used this example to back up your pro mass immigration stance.
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Hammer and Pickle
3:17 Thu Sep 10
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Doesn't stop them making any constructive proposals and publicising them in the media. They seem to have a lot to say, just they never seem to do anything apart from being awkward.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
3:12 Thu Sep 10
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H&P
Thank you for translating your previous post into something vaguely recognisable as the English language.
The Eurosceptics in the Tory party are kept far from all negotiations and from the Council of Europe.
I think that renders your now intelligible point null.
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Hammer and Pickle
1:49 Thu Sep 10
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Keep reposting my posts, Zero - I love it.
So what have the Eurosceptics in the Tory party brought to the table at the Council of Europe in terms of policy proposal? Say on TTIP?
You are of course free to pretend you don't understand the question. But it will also mean you have no answer.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
1:36 Thu Sep 10
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Hmmm. Here's an example - there are far worse.
Hammer and Pickle 11:15 Tue Sep 8
'The problem is the UK has nothing sensible to put on the table while the Eurosceptics define the agenda with their populism.'
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